Comments on: A step forward in London’s airport debate https://www.archtam.com/blog/a-step-forward-in-londons-airport-debate/ ArchTam Wed, 20 Sep 2023 10:33:07 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.3 By: max v https://www.archtam.com/blog/a-step-forward-in-londons-airport-debate/#comment-4238 Sat, 20 Sep 2014 11:09:46 +0000 https://www.archtam.com/blogs/a-step-forward-in-londons-airport-debate/#comment-4238 Very interesting discussion indeed, having lived in UK, I believe in Boris / Foster proposal. . .

New Runways & Extensions in Heathrow and Gatwick are mid term solutions, at the end of the day, if you want to keep up with Far and Middle East aviation hubs, a brand new airport with perhaps 6 parallel runways in the Thames Estuary connected to Cross rail is the only way to go. Londoners can have democratic referendum etc; this is still the hard reality. By average, we spend 20 minutes in holding pattern even if you add runways in these existing airports, the waste of fuel and time is also immense.

Rebrand London HR will as a secondary albeit luxury hub, for example Switzerland Zurich airport has accepted they will never be as big as Schiphol, they just concentrated in making it impeccable, uber efficient and beautiful, for the select and the privileged. Good alternative to enter a city or EU, lower landing fees, no lines, Zen like experience, top quality retail etc. Ask Tyler Brule of FT. . . Fast lane writer. . . These guys know airports, from branding and experience point of view.

Then again Thames estuary proposal is a realists view 30 years ahead. . . this incremental, efficiency and compactness in international aviation hub approach are not enough for newer planes like A380 will be bigger replacements as well faster ones like Concord which can travel to NYC or Tokyo in 1-2 hrs. and cruise at outer space. . . the norm by then.

Come to think of it the world is pretty big. . . 80% is still wide blue ocean. . . keep it open to develop the Thames Estuary proposal, as others are actually implementing this brave new approach. . . now . . .

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By: Chris Choa https://www.archtam.com/blog/a-step-forward-in-londons-airport-debate/#comment-4239 Wed, 10 Sep 2014 18:08:12 +0000 https://www.archtam.com/blogs/a-step-forward-in-londons-airport-debate/#comment-4239 Thanks for your note, Chad.

In the end, we can’t afford to simply measure incremental cost or benefit of free-standing infrastructure.

In the case of airports – like any infrastructure asset class – it’s no longer about evaluating the impacts of a utility at the periphery of the city; we have to see how the system performs as a whole. The discussion has to be about how the airport and the closely-related urban hinterland create value for the greatest number of people.

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By: Chad https://www.archtam.com/blog/a-step-forward-in-londons-airport-debate/#comment-4240 Mon, 08 Sep 2014 14:10:11 +0000 https://www.archtam.com/blogs/a-step-forward-in-londons-airport-debate/#comment-4240 Our large metropolitan airports function as the nucleus for Edge Cities as the rippling effect of commerce and adjacency are seeded by these critical infrastructural nodes (in most cases) well outside the urban core. Bolstering the connection to the core and other destinations is critical, but so is the importance of engaging the lands within the electron cloud of the airport city. Bold plans should consider the more difficult task of addressing change in the vicinity of Heathrow’s present territory. Aeronautic considerations for airside operations and air traffic control are of high importance, but the socio-eco-geographic footprint of an airport should be considered equally important because it has a greater impact on the legacy of the City is serves. Kudos to Mr. Choa for advocating the challenging task at hand.

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